Confused by a negative histamine test result?

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A negative histamine result doesn’t rule out mast cell disorder or some kind of chronic inflammatory condition. 

When I arrived to meet with my new doctor at the Virgen del Valle hospital in Toledo, Spain, I was a little surprised by the tests they ordered to diagnose me with mast cell activation.

While very thorough in testing that would exclude other diagnoses, I was unhappy to see that n-methylhistamine, prostaglandin d2 and interleukins were not on the list. Having seen the list of tests recommended by doctors in the US (Dr. Theoharides at Tufts for example), I didn’t see how we could paint an accurate picture of what was going on with me, but by that point, I was there and ready to get on with it no matter what. After a five and a half hour consultation during which I presented my medical history, previous tests, photographic evidence and went over the new diagnoses we had excluded, I was diagnosed with MCAS (mast cell activation syndrome). Though my symptoms were so much better by that point, really so much better, there was a feeling that it might be a temporary remission due to the extreme diet I was on. I was prescribed a mast cell stabiliser called sodium cromolyn [1], which I was told would help me eat a “normal” diet.

Rather than take it, I chose to try a natural mast cell stabiliser made from a bioflavonoid called quercetin, which is found in many plant foods. First the Twinlab quercetin and vitamin c and then Neuroprotek, created by mast cell researcher Dr. Theoharides. Both relieved my symptoms immeasurably, the latter far more than the former. I was later told by mast cell specialist and dermatologist Dr. Grattan in London that the definitive diagnosis of mast cell activation comes after a resolution of symptoms thanks to sodium cromolyn. He had no opinion on quercetin as a treatment, despite it being shown to be more effective than sodium cromolyn at preventing mast cell degranulation in medical studies [2].  I think this was more of an issue of my seeing him as an NHS patient (i.e. for free) and it not being an approved treatment.

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Given that every test I have ever taken in my life has come back negative, I really wouldn’t have been surprised to see mast cell ones come back that way too. And that’s what happens to a lot of people. Now, it may be that histamine/mast cells aren’t their issue, or just that their doctors don’t know enough about them to diagnose it, or that the tests were done when they were not reactive (tryptase for example often comes back negative unless “caught” during a mast cell/allergy crisis). Some in the states will diagnose on just symptoms and remission of symptoms once taking sodium cromolyn, but unless they’re mast cell specialists, they may be doing their patients a disservice. That’s because histamine excess/mast cell activation can be secondary to a primary infection or health dysfunction, so doctors need to be sure they’re not missing something.

The team that saw me in Spain had at the time treated more mastocytosis patients than anyone in the world. 

I keep asking my readers to keep in mind that even if we’re dealing with histamine intolerance, which is characterised by high plasma histamine and low histamine degrading enzyme (diamine oxidase), ignoring other sources of inflammation is a mistake.

Histamine is just one of many inflammatory mediators released or synthesised when mast cells break open in a process called degranulation. This happens when healing needs to take place and for many other reasons. So a bunch of other inflammation causing molecules are dumped into the blood stream along with the histamine.

As outlined in my post on diagnosis, immunologists, allergists or dermatologists with experience in mast cell diagnosis will often recommend a number of tests to paint a full picture.

Please, also remember, test results may come back negative if you are not reactive when getting tested!

A few I’ll highlight for the purposes of this post:

N-methylhistamine: a 24 hour urine collection test. Plasma histamine is rarely a good indicator because histamine fluctuates throughout the day. Hence the 24 hour collection being used by specialists.

Prostaglandins: they can fight or encourage inflammation. PGD2 is synthesised when mast cells degranulate and has been linked to hair loss [2].

Interleukins: like prostaglandins, these signalling molecules can fight or enhance inflammation. They have been linked to an increased risk of cancer [3]

Dr. Theoharides specifically recommends testing IL-6 and TNF.

Here’s the thing. You can have a normal histamine level, but high prostaglandins or interleukins. That might indicate that you have some kind of mast cell degranulation going on.

But also, and here’s what blew my mind when I first read it years ago, is that prostaglandin D2 (PGD2) has been shown in studies to enhance the release of histamine from human mast cells [4] and in one particular animal study to increase by 1000 times the effect nasal histamine in rats [5].

So whatever is going on with you histamine-wise, if your prostaglandin is off, the histamine you have or are exposed to, is going to be much more potent in its effects on the body. Foods that fight prostaglandin induced inflammation are in all of my meals! 

Interleukins and histamine also have a complicated relationship that I would love a doctor to explain to me it its entirety [5]. I’m hoping to develop a relationship with a mast cell doctor whereby I can go talk to them once a month to get their feedback and explanation of the intricacies of the research I’m reading when I move to the states in February (visa gods willing!)

I also recommend reading my post on COX induced inflammation and how I fight it with foods. 

This is one of the reasons I started thinking of my recovery in terms of the inflammation rather than histamine bucket. In this model, rather than it just being histamine or histamine releasing triggers and foods going into the bucket that eventually spills over, it’s a bucket where everything that causes inflammation generally causes us to spill over. Which is why eliminating histamine, at the expense of superior nutrition, or just rather than going on a anti-inflammatory diet alone, is not the best approach in my opinion. You’ll find more in my post here where I explain how following this approach is helping me heal. 

By all means, trigger avoidance is a great idea, especially when starting out. But continued avoidance of triggers at the expense of weakening our body’s nutritional defences, an approach I followed to my detriment for the first few years, is not.

 

You’ll find recipes full of foods with antihistamine and anti-inflammatory properties my books Anti-Recipes and The Anti-Cookbook

Take the hassle out of meal planning and healing histamine with this four week meal planner and stress relieving program. 

———— REFERENCES ————

[1] http://www.healthline.com/health/allergies/cromolyn

[2] http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0033805

[3] https://dev.healinghistamine.com/the-allergy-hairloss-link-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/

[4] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167488911000425

[5] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6198512

[6] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17112500

[7] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC293589/

19 responses to “Confused by a negative histamine test result?”

  1. Helena Frejdevi Avatar
    Helena Frejdevi

    I live in Sweden and very recently got a histaminesensitivity diagnosis. I reacted with an anafylactic reaction to penicillin but the allergyspecialist found no allergy. Instead I was told I had an autiommune nucleus antibody (ANA) with increased inflammation in my body and histamine sensitivity as a consequence from that. High dosage of vit C and Daosin help me reduce symptoms, I note no help from quercetin during outbreak with hives.
    Thank you for your very helpful information.

  2. Helena Frejdevi Avatar
    Helena Frejdevi

    I live in Sweden and very recently got a histaminesensitivity diagnosis. I reacted with an anafylactic reaction to penicillin but the allergyspecialist found no allergy. Instead I was told I had an autiommune nucleus antibody (ANA) with increased inflammation in my body and histamine sensitivity as a consequence from that. High dosage of vit C and Daosin help me reduce symptoms, I note no help from quercetin during outbreak with hives.
    Thank you for your very helpful information.

  3. Nel Avatar
    Nel

    Hello Yasmina. Please tell me which paper you suggested to print in your email, among the ones cited in reference? And another question, did you keep taking quercetin everyday, even now when you feel better and able of eating basically everything? Thank you. Nel.

  4. Nel Avatar
    Nel

    Hello Yasmina. Please tell me which paper you suggested to print in your email, among the ones cited in reference? And another question, did you keep taking quercetin everyday, even now when you feel better and able of eating basically everything? Thank you. Nel.

  5. ahomestead Avatar
    ahomestead

    Quercetin seems to not work well with me, it flares my fibroids and fibrosis, have you heard of this before?

  6. ahomestead Avatar
    ahomestead

    Quercetin seems to not work well with me, it flares my fibroids and fibrosis, have you heard of this before?

  7. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hmmm, no I haven’t. Might be a hormonal issue? I know it does affect oestrogen. Some just can’t take it. Have you checked your COMT gene?

  8. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hmmm, no I haven’t. Might be a hormonal issue? I know it does affect oestrogen. Some just can’t take it. Have you checked your COMT gene?

  9. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi! 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7. I still take quercetin yes. I’ve cut back significantly, but I figure it’s doing something good, so why stop? It has also been shown to prevent cancer…

  10. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi! 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7. I still take quercetin yes. I’ve cut back significantly, but I figure it’s doing something good, so why stop? It has also been shown to prevent cancer…

  11. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Interesting, thank you for sharing. I found many brands of querceitn either did nothing for me or made me feel worse, till I tried the Twinlab and Neuroprotek ones. But we’re all different, it might not help in your case. Hope it resolves quickly.

  12. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Interesting, thank you for sharing. I found many brands of querceitn either did nothing for me or made me feel worse, till I tried the Twinlab and Neuroprotek ones. But we’re all different, it might not help in your case. Hope it resolves quickly.

  13. ahomestead Avatar
    ahomestead

    I have a heterozygous COMT gene. But yes I even have a small fibroid cyst, through diet and supplement changes it has shrunk (testing showed), when I started quercetin it inflamed/hardened and became painful. When I stopped quercetin so did fibroid and fibromayalga inflammation! It definitely could be hormonal. I know histamine issues have effected that aspect as well! Thanks and blessings!

  14. ahomestead Avatar
    ahomestead

    I have a heterozygous COMT gene. But yes I even have a small fibroid cyst, through diet and supplement changes it has shrunk (testing showed), when I started quercetin it inflamed/hardened and became painful. When I stopped quercetin so did fibroid and fibromayalga inflammation! It definitely could be hormonal. I know histamine issues have effected that aspect as well! Thanks and blessings!

  15. Linda N Avatar
    Linda N

    High dose vitamin C and Daosin help me as well Quercetin often made me worse too. Sometimes it helps but most times it does not. I think it is the homozygous slow MAO’s for me (Quercetin blocks MAO big time) as well as heterozygous COMT’s but mostly my problem is with both critical DAO’s being homozygous. I tried 2 Daosin at each meal for 3 days and started feeling quite good. But alas the price tag is so high I could not and cannot continue on them. I have homozygous MAT enzymes as well so cannot make enough SAMe as a cofactor to HNMT to break down histamine inside the cell. Makes for a lot of high histamine and inflammatory difficulties all around. Eat all the anti-inflammatory foods I can presently tolerate (lots of smoothies) but I just purchased some spouters to try sprouting dried peas into DAO containing sprouts, and hope I don’t have the same problem with mold that I had in New England (recently moved to AZ) I am also a nutritionist and herbalist and have been introducing a friend who has severe mastocytosis to the concept of a real-food lower histamine diet, (God her processed food diet was BAD) and she is actually doing better than I am. This double homozygous DAO’s plus homozygous slow MAO’s combined with homozygous MAT enzymes is darn hard with which to deal!

  16. Linda N Avatar
    Linda N

    High dose vitamin C and Daosin help me as well Quercetin often made me worse too. Sometimes it helps but most times it does not. I think it is the homozygous slow MAO’s for me (Quercetin blocks MAO big time) as well as heterozygous COMT’s but mostly my problem is with both critical DAO’s being homozygous. I tried 2 Daosin at each meal for 3 days and started feeling quite good. But alas the price tag is so high I could not and cannot continue on them. I have homozygous MAT enzymes as well so cannot make enough SAMe as a cofactor to HNMT to break down histamine inside the cell. Makes for a lot of high histamine and inflammatory difficulties all around. Eat all the anti-inflammatory foods I can presently tolerate (lots of smoothies) but I just purchased some spouters to try sprouting dried peas into DAO containing sprouts, and hope I don’t have the same problem with mold that I had in New England (recently moved to AZ) I am also a nutritionist and herbalist and have been introducing a friend who has severe mastocytosis to the concept of a real-food lower histamine diet, (God her processed food diet was BAD) and she is actually doing better than I am. This double homozygous DAO’s plus homozygous slow MAO’s combined with homozygous MAT enzymes is darn hard with which to deal!

  17. drkeith Avatar
    drkeith

    Yasmina, I agree that the deeper focus be on inflammation rather than histamine per se, given that mast cells release 60-odd mediators of inflammation. At last week’s Mold Conference in Phoenix I reported the finding that alphaMSH guides mast cell apoptosis. In CIRS-WDB, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome acquired by exposure to Water-Damaged Buildings, aMSH routinely runs low.

    Apoptosis is the orderly breakdown of cells that are behaving abnormally. When aMSH is reduced by CIRS-WDB, it means that abnormally behaving mast cells may fail to undergo apoptosis when apoptosis is warranted. If so, the multiple inflammation mediators released by mast cells (not just histamine) could be activated at higher than normal rates due to this cause of mast cell dysregulation. The root cause would be the chronic inflammation of CIRS-WDB, and its ability to run aMSH levels into the ground.

    My slides on Mast Cells and CIRS will soon be posted on Slideshare.

  18. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    It could be salicylate intolerance. I have both histamine intolerance and salicylate sensitivity. The latter causes that I cannot tolerate quercetin.

  19. Trudy Griggs Avatar
    Trudy Griggs

    Yasmina, please can you tell me where I go or who to see to get the specific tests you mention (N-methylhistamine – prostaglandins PGD2 – Interleukins and the IL-6 and TNF?) My tryptase levels just came back normal and the allergy clinic have dismissed me suggesting I see a dietician, use Dymista nasal spray and get psychological help!!! Are these tests something I can get done at a private hospital such as BUPA? Or can my GP order up these tests for me or refer me for them? I am in the UK. I would be so grateful for any help you can suggest.
    Love and Light
    Trudy xox

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