Diagnosing histamine intolerance & mast cell activation

diagnosing histamine intolerance

I’ve been told, by a number of doctors, that it takes, on average, a decade to diagnose someone with a mast cell disorder. I personally consider histamine intolerance to be a mast cell disorder. It took me almost 30 years and 68 doctors to get to histamine intolerance, and then another three years and two doctors to get to mast cell activation disorder. To complicate matters, many are diagnosed with a mast cell disorder, despite suspected mastocytosis, only because they have not had a bone marrow biopsy or comprehensive testing within an hour of having a serious episode (ie anaphylaxis).

No matter the diagnosis, I believe, and have seen, that histamine/mast cell disorders, are totally manageable through dietary changes, a healthy but low impact exercise regime, regular meditation and stress management, and a whole heap of positivity – with or without meds. I don’t take meds.

Don’t just take my word for it, check out my testimonials page and my interview with leading mast cell expert Dr Castells (on the role of diet and exercise in mast cell disorders).

diagnosing histamine intolerance

DIAGNOSING HISTAMINE INTOLERANCE

Diagnosed by: nutritionists, GPs/primary care physicians, functional/integrative medicine doctors.

You’ll have a tough time convincing: allergists and immunologists that it exists.

Best countries for diagnosis: Germany, Austria, UK.

Histamine Plasma

What it is: the level of histamine currently found in your blood.

Why measure it: histamine intolerance is thought to be too much histamine in the body.

Reliability: given that histamine is found in the body as well as food, and is released by mast cells (white blood cells) as needed to wake us up, control appetite and metabolism, as neurotransmitter, and much more, any doctor worth their salt will tell you that histamine fluctuates wildly in your body, and as such this is not a reliable test of your average histamine level.

DAO (diamine oxidase)

What it is: DAO is an enzyme found in the gut. It’s responsible for degrading histamine there.

Why measure it: the theory is that low DAO makes it hard/impossible to clear histamine from the body, leading to histamine intolerance/symptoms of high histamine.

Reliability: DAO is one of two histamine-degrading enzymes we know of (HNMT being the other), therefore just relying on DAO as a measure isn’t likely to give us the full picture. Throw in the fact that DAO also fluctuates wildly, and that we don’t know where else, other than the gut, DAO might live, and whether we’re even measuring it in the right spot! I also always point out to people – if you’re not eating high histamine foods anymore, why is there still so much left (supposedly) for DAO to eliminate? Read on for the answer.

Elimination diet

What it is: a four-week elimination of all foods on the high histamine lists.

Why try it: the theory is that no matter the test results, if eliminating these foods makes you feel better, you have your answer.

Reliability: let’s start with the fact that all high histamine food lists contradict each other, that many high histamine foods are also junk/bad for you generally, so cutting them out would make most people feel better anyways, and that restricting foods is rarely healthy. Add in that most people, sadly, are told that they must continue restricting these foods, thereby starving themselves of nutrition, thereby further weakening their body and ensuring they will continue to react.

You’ll find recipes full of foods with antihistamine and anti-inflammatory properties my books Anti-Recipes and The Anti-Cookbook

CLICK HERE TO CREATE YOUR OWN PERSONALISED HEALING HISTAMINE PLAN. 

Histamine prick test

A study on the prick test method to print for your doctor.

What it is: Austrian docs figured out that injecting patients with histamine causes a significant reaction (when compared to controls) and as such is a reliable way to diagnose patients with histamine intolerance.

Why try it: my allergy scratch tests came back negative for years, but docs always commented on my unusually severe response to the control (pure histamine!). I would be very careful if you have ever had major reactions and good luck convincing a doc to do it for you!

Reliability: I can’t really speak to this one as I don’t have enough information on it yet.

Ok, a final word on why all these tests must be taken with a pinch of salt: histamine, an inflammatory agent in the body, is contained within mast cells. Mast cells, white blood cells that are an integral part of our immune system, also contain dozens of other inflammatory elements, that are not addressed in the tests above. I continue to say, that focusing on just histamine as a method of diagnosis, treatment, or diet, is the BIGGEST mistake anyone can make. I made it myself, for many years, and continued to get sicker.

Once I researched why mast cells release too much histamine in the first place, I understood I needed to widen my scope to inflammation in general, rather than just histamine. I talk about this in depth in the Anti-Cookbook.

MAST CELL ACTIVATION

Diagnosed by: functional/integrative medicine doctors, immunologists, haematologists, some allergists (rare though), some GPs (also very rare).

You’ll have a tough time convincing: European doctors who deal in mastocytosis, nutritionists (may fob you off with an inaccurate diagnosis based on symptoms).

Best countries for diagnosis: United States, Spain (Virgen del Valle Hospital in Toledo).

Mast cell activation syndrome is usually diagnosed (mainly) on the basis of symptoms and exclusion of all other possible diagnoses. Mast cell activation disorder usually requires a number of positive tests (see below).

Diagnosing mast cell activation syndrome

“Diagnosis of MCAS is often difficult for many reasons, principally the cognitive challenge it poses to the diagnostician. The average physician is capable of considering only a handful of clinical elements at a time when attempting to recognize diagnostic patterns of presentation (e.g., fever, night sweats, and hemoptysis suggest a possibility of tuberculosis).

Temporal factors are important to human cognition, too. The human mind is increasingly challenged at recognizing patterns when events occur with less temporal regularity and less temporal proximity to one another. Furthermore, repetition of presentation is key for diagnostic efficiency. The physician who repeatedly sees the same set of elements present in the same temporal pattern will be able to recognize the same pattern more efficiently in the future.

MCAS, though, seems almost artificially engineered to confound diagnosticians. Its great menagerie of underlying activating mutations, combined with the mast cell’s normal function of producing and releasing a cornucopia of highly potent mediators (each with multiple direct and indirect, local and remote effects), ensures a tremendous range of clinical presentations. Once a full history is obtained, it is evident that the average MCAS patient presents with a large number of symptoms and findings, and many of these presenting elements wax and wane over time periods ranging from minutes to years, often with no clear temporal relationship to one another.” – Dr Afrin.

Criteria for diagnosing mast cell activation

(You could just print this document off and take it to your doctor)

Mast cell activation syndrome is mainly diagnosed on the basis of symptoms:

As per Dr Afrin:

(1)…the general presenting motif of MCAS is chronic multisystem polymorbidity, generally of an inflammatory theme and with assorted elements waxing and waning over time, sometimes in synchronization with one another but more often cycling with different periods and amplitudes.

(2) When there are symptoms and findings not classically expected with, or not easy to attribute to, the patient’s established diagnoses, alternative diagnoses must be entertained to account for these “leftover” elements, and given the universal truth of Occam’s Razor, it becomes more likely that the same diagnosis that accounts for the leftover elements also accounts for the established diagnoses.

(3) The range of mast cell mediators and their effects is so great that “unusual” presentations actually become de rigeur. That is to say, although any given unusual presentation remains unusual, the full set of unusual presentations constitutes a large fraction of the total set of presentations. Thus, when the clinician recognizes an “unusual,” “odd”, “weird”, “bizarre,” or “strange” element in the patient’s presentation–e.g., “allergies” to typically innocuous medications, migratory rather than dependent edema, severe and highly variable hyperferritinemia not attributable to the patient’s transfusion and chelation history, etc. – his “MCAS radar” should go on alert. The presence of an unusual element in the presentation by no means establishes a diagnosis of MCAS, but it sometimes can be the first spark toward lighting a fire of recognition.

Thus, the largest impediment to diagnosing MCAS may simply be suspecting it.

As per Dr Theoharides

(From a recent presentation)

(1) Dermatologic: flushing, pruritus, urticaria pigmentosa, angioedema, dermatographism (sometimes)

(2) Respiratory: wheezing, sore throat

(3) Cardiovascular: chest pain, hypotension, tachycardia

(4) Gastrointestinal: abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, bloating, malabsorption, esophagitis

(5) Naso-ocular: nasal stuffiness, pruritus

(6) Neurologic: headache, memory and concentration difficulties/brain fog, paresthesia, peripheral neuropathy

(7) Muscoskeletal: bone/muscle pain, degenerative disc disease, osteoporosis/osteopenia

(8) Systemic: anaphylaxis, fatigue

Diagnosing mast cell activation disorder

All the symptoms and indications above, plus positive:

N-methylhistamine 24 hour urine test

Prostaglandin D2

Heparin

Tryptase (this doesn’t have to come back out of range, it’s usually done to rule out mastocytosis)

MASTOCYTOSIS

Diagnosed by: functional/integrative medicine doctors, immunologists, haematologists, some allergists (rare though), some GPs (also very rare), dermatologists (mostly in the case of cutaneous mastocytosis or urticaria pigmentosa).

You’ll have a tough time convincing: nutritionists (may fob you off with an inaccurate diagnosis based on symptoms), almost any other kind of doctor.

Best countries for diagnosis: United States, Spain (Virgen del Valle Hospital in Toledo), United Kingdom.

Diagnosing mastocytosis

As per Dr Afrin

(1) Multifocal or disseminated dense infiltrates of mast cells in bone marrow biopsies and/or in sections of other extracutaneous organ(s) (CD117-, tryptase-, and CD25-stained)

(2) Unique constellation of clinical symptoms secondary to a pathological increase in mast cell activity (mast cell mediator release syndrome)

 Minor criteria:

(1) Mast cells in bone marrow or other extracutaneous organ(s) show abnormal morphology (>25%) in bone marrow smears or on histological examination

(2) Mast cells in bone marrow express CD2 and/or CD25

(3) Detection of genetic alterations in mast cells from blood, bone marrow, or extracutaneous organs, which have been confirmed to result in an increase in the activity of affected mast cells.

(4) Evidence of a pathological increase in mast cell activity through detection of an elevated level of at least one sensitive mast cell-derived mediator, i.e., tryptase, heparin, histamine, PGD2, chromogranin A, leukotrienes (and their assorted metabolites) in blood and/or urine

You’ll find recipes full of foods with antihistamine and anti-inflammatory properties my books Anti-Recipes and The Anti-Cookbook

CLICK HERE TO CREATE YOUR OWN PERSONALISED HEALING HISTAMINE PLAN. 

Please don’t forget antihistamine, pain killing foods can still hurt us, so please always check with your doctor before adding new foods to your diet. 

56 responses to “Diagnosing histamine intolerance & mast cell activation”

  1. Ann Avatar
    Ann

    Yasmina, Did you just answer ANOTHER question for me. I remember taking the “allergy” test and I reacted to the control! It’s histamine???? Wow. I was 99.9% sure this is what I had, now I’m 100% sure. You have been my “twin” in the world of reactions.

  2. Alison Vickery Avatar

    Hi Yasmina thanks for doing this succinct summary. Just to let you know that Australia is a leading expert in this area. If people are in Australia I have a relationship with naturopaths, functional GPs, and leading professors of immunology whom actively diagnose and treat this condition. They are welcome to contact me if they are struggling to find someone. I have largely reversed my condition through their advice. http://www.alisonvickery.com.au

  3. Lori Schwegel Avatar
    Lori Schwegel

    I too had the dr. Comment at the reaction to histamine on my environmental allergy skin prick test.

  4. Ann Avatar
    Ann

    Yasmina,
    What % of PWMCAD are anemic? Do many have copper problems?

  5. Debra Avatar
    Debra

    Well I can consider myself fortunate. My doctor is Dr Afrin! I have been working with him for the past 5 years or so. I just recently came off the Quercenase because my symptoms were getting bad again. It is so hard to get it right! I am now on 1000mg of Vit C a day. I have only been on it for a week so it is too soon to tell if it is going to help.

  6. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    You most certainly ARE fortunate! Is that all you’re taking? I would have thought he prescribes hard core stuff. LOVE it when docs are into the natural approach. Hope you feel better soon xx

  7. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    I know a lot have serious anemia…copper is often low, which leads to further DAO dysfunction.

  8. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Interesting! Hopefully this test will catch on.

  9. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    I’m glad you’re finding useful information!

  10. Jodi Owen Avatar
    Jodi Owen

    Dr. Suranjith Seneviratne (London Immunologist and Allergist) is the UK specialist on MCAD and is treating many of us based on (limited) pathology, history, symptoms, positive response to low histamine diet and positive response to antihistamines. He is currently awaiting more test development to include PGD2 and leukotrines through The Doctors Lab. Even when mediator negative (he knows how difficult it is to get an accurate positive result) he will prescribe Nalcrom based on history and symptoms and a positive response to it is included as evidence of MCAD.
    Two years ago, Dr S realised that many of his patients coming in with ‘mysterious’ allergy-like symptoms also had Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome and made the connection to MCAD.
    The UK was not included in the MCA list above. Could you please amend it to include Dr S? While the US and Spain are more experienced in diagnosing, it’s important for your UK readers to know there is an option here (though not NHS, only private.)

  11. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi Jodi, as I’m not personally endorsing doctors I haven’t met or interviewed (or just generally endorsing them), so you’ll notice I haven’t mentioned anyone by name. I mention the US and Spain because between them they have seen more mast cell patients than anywhere else in the world. It’s a shame he’s so expensive, otherwise I would have gone to see him rather than flying all the way to Spain. I’m sure people will read through the comments and see your endorsement. Thanks for commenting!

  12. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    That’s wonderful thank you!

  13. Debra Avatar
    Debra

    Thank you Yasmina! Dr Afrin has really tried to stay away from expensive prescriptions. As you know, you never know what is going to finally be “the one that worked”! Love reading your writings and information in them. My next attempt is to start meditation. Stress is a huge reactor for me. Thanks again!

  14. Ariane Khachatourians Avatar

    Hi Yasmina – I was just wondering if you could elaborate on the reaction you had during the allergy testing. I just learned about mast cell disorders a few weeks ago thanks to someone tipping me off, and now my doctor (who didn’t know about Masto/MCAD) and I suspect this is why I’ve been so sick for most of my life.

    Thursday I went to the allergist (who works at the same clinic as my doctor) for intradermal allergy testing (where they inject a bit of the substance under your skin, not just a scratch test) for moulds and yeasts, and they did the control tests – I reacted to both the histamine and the glycerine with a wheal. The nurse doing the testing was surprised so did a second glycerine injection… within minutes I started to have low BP and my throat started tightening (first time in my life that has happened, scary!)

    I was medicated to stop the reaction, and I said I did not want to proceed with the test serums, and they decided to stop my grass immunotherapy temporarily to see about getting glycerine free serums…

    The allergist told me I must avoid glycerine completely (consuming or topically) but it is in EVERYTHING including almost all soaps, creams, lotions, even my cortisone cream and my antihistamine pills!

    I’ve been trying to find info about masto and hypersensitivities to glycerine, and also reactions to allergy test controls. I’m wondering if maybe it was the histamine injection that did me in, and that the glycerine just bothered me because I was already reacting…

    Anyway, any light you can shed (about your experience with the testing, or any articles about this) would be great!

    Thank you, your site has been SUCH a huge help, and this post couldn’t have come at a better time! xo

  15. Laila Avatar
    Laila

    Hello Yasmina,
    I just wanted to say a big thank you. After a month of your recipes, my panic attacks have stopped and my rash has gone. I feel so much better, I’m so grateful for having found your site.
    All the best,
    Laila

  16. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Laila! I’m SO happy to hear it!! Thank you so much for letting me know 🙂 These messages really keep me going! Would it be ok if I used this on the website? I’m trying to show people that others are recovering too.

  17. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hiya, Odds are that yes, the histamine did you in, and you were going to react to anything else they injected you with. While not many people have a glycerine issue, some do. I myself used to react to it in a big way. Initially, my histamine reaction was a lump the size of a small golf ball and almost passing out. Then it was just feeling a little woozy. I’m so glad the site has been of use to you!! xx

  18. Ariane Khachatourians Avatar

    Interesting… it’s just so good to hear someone else’s experience, since this isn’t very common!

    I literally sat down and over a couple days read your ENTIRE blog archive. There is so much fantastic info in it, and it’s especially great hearing the interviews with some of the masto doctors, as it really ties some of their more technical journal articles together in a way that’s easier to understand.

    Thanks for doing what you do!! xo

  19. Veronica Mounts Avatar
    Veronica Mounts

    Hey Yasmina,
    My 2 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with Urticeria Pigmentosa when he was 18 months. I have struggle finding helpful information regarding his diagnosis. Your article is fantastic! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
    Hugs,
    Veronica

  20. Laila Avatar
    Laila

    Absolutely, no problem for using my comment. I could add that after 6 months of 4 different doctors, continual anti-histamine prescriptions, as well as steroids and anti-inflammatories, I feel like I’m getting my life back.
    All the best,
    Laila

  21. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    That’s so kind of you to say Victoria! I’m happy to have been of help, best of luck on your journey. I’m here if you need anything. xx

  22. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    That’s lovely thank you 🙂 xx

  23. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Aww that’s so sweet thank you 🙂 Glad it’s of use xx

  24. karen Avatar
    karen

    Yasmina
    Just wanted to send a great big thank you and well done. Thanks for all the great information. You are giving so much help and hope to so many. Your meals were a great inspiration to moving forward in my ability to eat. Please tell Kimby that, she is one of the beautiful people making this world a better place. I admire her
    spirit and heart. Enjoy the rest of the week, stay warm and dry.

  25. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi Karen!! Thanks SO much for coming out to the retreat! It was so lovely meeting you, will answer your email once I arrive back in New York. Will be sure to tell her 🙂

  26. Susan Avatar
    Susan

    What is your verdict on the low oxalate eating? Did it make any difference for you? Please elaborate. I’m trying to figure out if my pain is mostly histamine or mostly oxalate? I had endo (with infertility) and have IC, vulvodynia and pelvic pain. Also occasional GERD. Sister has migraines, thyroid problems & rosacea. Mom has Hashimotos.

  27. Judy Avatar
    Judy

    Thanks much for all the info. I would indeed like to just print off the (long article), but find that the print option in it is not enabled. Anyone figured out how to get it printed?

  28. Carla Hill Avatar
    Carla Hill

    Hello,
    I was diagnosed with MCAD by a Gastro here at home, Okla City. I am having trouble tolerarating Chromolym and thought I would visit with Mast cell expect in Boston. He reviewed my labs and questioned whether I really even had this! I was told he was not interested in seeing me. My trypase in normal as well as 24 hour urine for histimine. I know these things can fluctuate. Mast cells are slightly elevated. He sees much higher elevations in patients in his practice. My symptoms are text book and in the GI tract. Dr. Here has suggested oral Ketotifen, however it is not approved by the FDA.
    Any thoughts?

  29. karen Avatar
    karen

    I need some dental work and remember reading about types of nonocaine that might not be a problem. Can you recommend suggestions or where I read it.

  30. tony bruce Avatar
    tony bruce

    all so complicated, right?
    not really, as yasmina keeps pointing out these are all mast cell dysfunctions. more specifically h2- h3 receptor malfunctions (h1 receptor working great guns!). all pharmaceuticals target this last functioning receptor and try to turn it off too. so what about drugs to stimulate the h2-3 receptors back into healthy activity?unfortunately the pharmas are not interested in these as they have the inconvenient side effect of actually curing the disease, thus rendering the patient unprofitable. so you may think “this is terrible, the pharmas wont invest in research in these drugs and even if they did they will never release them! we’re screwed!”
    but the truth is even more obscene. the treatment is right in front of our very eyes. it is in the drawers of every allergist…what is our problem? mast cells. what do mast cells do? make histamine. the answer is histamine. histaglobulin diluted to around 10 to the minus 6 has been used since the 50’s in successful treatment of allergy symptoms ranging from headaches to asthma.
    find the book “the plot against asthma and allergy patients” by felix ravikovich m.d.
    aside from anything else it provides the best description of how the allergic mechanisms work in our bodies.
    i personally had been suffering for decades, but most recently(past 3-4 years) had been experiencing daly debilitating migraine/cluster headaches and severe weight loss(due to fear of food).
    since i started subcutaneous injections of diluted histaglobulin my headaches have stopped and i have gained 10 kilos. i still have aches and pains and some post nasal drip maybe, but 7 weeks into treatment i feel a hell of a lot better and hope to improve.
    this is serious stuff please look into it. if you already go to an allergist, get them to add histamine to your allergy shot. exogenous histamine has therapeutic effect on the mast cell h2-3 receptors. pass it on.
    tony bruce

  31. Clara Camí Nutricionista Avatar

    DAO Deficiency is an alteration in the metabolism of food histamine that appears when Diamine Oxidase (DAO) enzyme activity is low, in other words, when for some reason there is a significant deficiency in the functional activity of the main enzyme in the metabolism of histamine.

    The imbalance between ingested histamine and the histamine released from the histamine storage cells, and the capacity for histamine degradation, leads to histamine accumulation in plasma and the occurrence of adverse effects on health.

  32. Clara Camí Nutricionista Avatar

    A low histamine diet and a supplement of DAO, can reduce the migraine, gastrointestinal and dermatological disorders.

  33. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi Clara, indeed, that’s what it says in the Maintz and Novak study I link to in the above article. I think histamine intolerance as a diagnosis though does not take into account many factors that play a role in histamine/mast cell illnesses. I feel that those who diagnose this disorder, sell people enzyme supplements and tell them to eliminate histamine are doing them a grave disservice. Doctors I have spoken to all tell me that cutting histamine intake leads to a histamine production increase/rebound, at which point we get sicker. This would account for why so many people initially improve but then worsen on a low histamine diet/dao enzyme supplement regime.

  34. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi Tony, yup, read this book in 2010. Could you please put me in touch with your allergist? It’s a fairly controversial treatment so would love to understand more about it. Thanks!

  35. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi, I’m sorry that the docs are contradicting each other. I have tried neither of those, but can tell you that quercetin is as effective as sodium crom. Might be worth discussing it with whichever doc has more of an open mind.

  36. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Hi there, it did. But I find I no longer have to stay very low ox. I was eating handfuls of almonds daily for years and that turned out to be the main culprit. I’ve cut back to a handful every couple of weeks. I also cut back on sweet potato and chickpea flour and that did the trick.

  37. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    You’re so welcome. Hope he’s doing better xx

  38. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    That’s very kind of you to say! I’m so happy the blog is of use to you 🙂

  39. thelowhistaminechef Avatar

    Oh wow – glycerine! Yes, I reacted horribly to it for a very long time. I couldn’t believe it was the glycerine soap itself until I tried 100% pure glycerine soap and my body went completely nuts. I believe that it’s not in 100% pure shampoo and stuff, but don’t quote me on that. In any case, there’s hope cause I’m ok with it now! Just because you react to it now doesn’t mean you won’t once you’re doing better. As I keep telling people, my soy allergy completely disappeared in just two years. xx

  40. Bea Garth Avatar
    Bea Garth

    I want to repeat Yasmina, your blog is a life line for many, me included! I have yet to find a doctor who can go into any of this, and honestly am fed up with them at this point. I seem to be better at doing the research and getting pointers from you and a few others–plus listening to my own body.

    Meanwhile I just made another breakthrough, having read about this copper and histamine connection on another site. I went HMMM!? And thought I would try it out. I have discovered by trial and error that I seem to naturally have low copper levels even though I eat beans. My skin was saggy and crepey looking, and I have been dragging around the last year. I have been taking copper for a week and finally feel and look so much better! My skin no longer hangs! I have more energy and thus look and feel years younger.

    Who would have thought such a simple supplement like that would make any kind of difference? The judge of course is still out–esp. since I am also doing other things too like taking tumeric and ground up nigella sativa.

    will see how I do with copper supplements over the long term, and then try going off it and then back on before I really know if I need it or not. But honestly it does look like I do need it. Saggy skin is a big sign of copper deficiency. The copper seems to also be making me feel a lot better, i.e., more energetic, no longer overwhelmed by the simple stress of everyday living.

    I was so surprised to find many with histamine issues are low in copper. My hist. sensitive bf however does not seem to need as much. So once again, we are all different! But then he can eat strawberries and peanuts! Though he still gets the migraines now and then, especially if he eats eggs or meat or anything over a day old.

    I also just upped my dose of Niacinimide (vit. B-3) today from 500 to 1000 MG, and B-1 from 100 mg to 300 mg. Again too early to say, but it feels very promising!

    Again I read B-3 and B1 tend to be low in histamine sensitive folk. I already knew I was low in B1 but thought that 100 mg would be enough. Apparently not so! Both deficiencies can create a tendency to get stressed and inflamed. As a gardener I know that B1 is put in water to help plants deal with the stress of transplanting, so its logical if we are low in B1 our ability to deal with stress would be a lot less!! Thus the power of meditation etc. But why not also help it with some perhaps much needed supplementation??

    I also take a maintenance dose of iron due to not eating that much meat. And of course sublingual B12.

    Interestingly, in my studies, I discovered many who have migraines like I do have found they need to avoid meat and eggs. HMMM!

    Today, after several months of really being out of it with still way too many migraines, eczema and disturbed sleep, I finally am starting to feel like myself again. So I provisionally think the supplements really help.

    I am on a low histamine diet, complicated by also having SIBO, but also do try to add in other foods now and then–though occasionally that really does not work out and my symptoms flare. If that happens, I now load myself up on a bunch of antihistamine and detox tea and veggies, go for a walk and/or paint or do some yoga.

    Again, thanks for all you do dear!!

    Bea

  41. Bea Garth Avatar
    Bea Garth

    I want to repeat Yasmina, your blog is a life line for many, me included! I have yet to find a doctor who can go into any of this, and honestly am fed up with them at this point. I seem to be better at doing the research and getting pointers from you and a few others–plus listening to my own body.

    Meanwhile I just made another breakthrough, having read about this copper and histamine connection on another site. I went HMMM!? And thought I would try it out. I have discovered by trial and error that I seem to naturally have low copper levels even though I eat beans. My skin was saggy and crepey looking, and I have been dragging around the last year. I have been taking copper for a week and finally feel and look so much better! My skin no longer hangs! I have more energy and thus look and feel years younger.

    Who would have thought such a simple supplement like that would make any kind of difference? The judge of course is still out–esp. since I am also doing other things too like taking tumeric and ground up nigella sativa.

    will see how I do with copper supplements over the long term, and then try going off it and then back on before I really know if I need it or not. But honestly it does look like I do need it. Saggy skin is a big sign of copper deficiency. The copper seems to also be making me feel a lot better, i.e., more energetic, no longer overwhelmed by the simple stress of everyday living.

    I was so surprised to find many with histamine issues are low in copper. My hist. sensitive bf however does not seem to need as much. So once again, we are all different! But then he can eat strawberries and peanuts! Though he still gets the migraines now and then, especially if he eats eggs or meat or anything over a day old.

    I also just upped my dose of Niacinimide (vit. B-3) today from 500 to 1000 MG, and B-1 from 100 mg to 300 mg. Again too early to say, but it feels very promising!

    Again I read B-3 and B1 tend to be low in histamine sensitive folk. I already knew I was low in B1 but thought that 100 mg would be enough. Apparently not so! Both deficiencies can create a tendency to get stressed and inflamed. As a gardener I know that B1 is put in water to help plants deal with the stress of transplanting, so its logical if we are low in B1 our ability to deal with stress would be a lot less!! Thus the power of meditation etc. But why not also help it with some perhaps much needed supplementation??

    I also take a maintenance dose of iron due to not eating that much meat. And of course sublingual B12.

    Interestingly, in my studies, I discovered many who have migraines like I do have found they need to avoid meat and eggs. HMMM!

    Today, after several months of really being out of it with still way too many migraines, eczema and disturbed sleep, I finally am starting to feel like myself again. So I provisionally think the supplements really help.

    I am on a low histamine diet, complicated by also having SIBO, but also do try to add in other foods now and then–though occasionally that really does not work out and my symptoms flare. If that happens, I now load myself up on a bunch of antihistamine and detox tea and veggies, go for a walk and/or paint or do some yoga.

    Again, thanks for all you do dear!!

    Bea

  42. Nikki Avatar
    Nikki

    I was able to get to the point of a test for Tryptase but it is low. I’ve had very comprehensive food intolerance testing and the only thing that doesn’t register is squash. EVERYTHING creates a reaction in me. I do not have a diagnosis, but I don’t know where in the world to start anymore. I have a couple of your publications, but find myself wanting to just cry in my soup because I know some things react worse than others…but everything reacts. For someone on the extreme side of reactions with everything EXCEPT anaphlaxis (narcoleptic type episodes are pretty close, though), where do you recommend STARTING? I’m so tired…

  43. Nikki Avatar
    Nikki

    I was able to get to the point of a test for Tryptase but it is low. I’ve had very comprehensive food intolerance testing and the only thing that doesn’t register is squash. EVERYTHING creates a reaction in me. I do not have a diagnosis, but I don’t know where in the world to start anymore. I have a couple of your publications, but find myself wanting to just cry in my soup because I know some things react worse than others…but everything reacts. For someone on the extreme side of reactions with everything EXCEPT anaphlaxis (narcoleptic type episodes are pretty close, though), where do you recommend STARTING? I’m so tired…

  44. Kt Lynn Avatar
    Kt Lynn

    Zaditen is not FDA approved? Are you sure about that? So many people take it in the US

  45. Kt Lynn Avatar
    Kt Lynn

    Zaditen is not FDA approved? Are you sure about that? So many people take it in the US

  46. Samantha Avatar
    Samantha

    I have most of the symptoms on your list for mast cell activation. I’ve been feeling unwell for 18mths. My tryptase levels are around 24 at every test over the last year (and I wasn’t particularly activated when tested, no idea how high they might be during an episode of urticaria with angiodema).

    Bone marrow negative result this week. Immunologist (UK) ‘doesn’t believe in MCAS’ and has no explaination for my symptoms. She says some people just have high tryptase. I’m on H1 and H2 antihistamines and have had steroids for the angiodema episodes for the last 20 years (usually only get 1-3 episode a year, can be very severe).

    Totally fed up.

    I avoid foods I know upset me (cheese, red wine, MSG (v bad on that), bread. Oh, and advocados make me vomit badly.

    I feel totally alone with all this.

  47. Samantha Avatar
    Samantha

    I have most of the symptoms on your list for mast cell activation. I’ve been feeling unwell for 18mths. My tryptase levels are around 24 at every test over the last year (and I wasn’t particularly activated when tested, no idea how high they might be during an episode of urticaria with angiodema).

    Bone marrow negative result this week. Immunologist (UK) ‘doesn’t believe in MCAS’ and has no explaination for my symptoms. She says some people just have high tryptase. I’m on H1 and H2 antihistamines and have had steroids for the angiodema episodes for the last 20 years (usually only get 1-3 episode a year, can be very severe).

    Totally fed up.

    I avoid foods I know upset me (cheese, red wine, MSG (v bad on that), bread. Oh, and advocados make me vomit badly.

    I feel totally alone with all this.

  48. Jamie Avatar
    Jamie

    Hi Jodi,

    Thank you ever so much for posting this. I can’t seem to write a PM to you on Disqus so having to do it through this.

    I am from the UK too, I’m having alot of trouble navigating how to get this whole process started in regards to seeing the right people and getting someone to listen to my bizarre range of symptoms (which very closely relate to MCAS), without thinking I need to have some sort of psychological examination.

    Would it be ok if you could contact me via email so I could ask a few questions and get some advice from you? My email is [email protected].

    All the best,
    Jamie

  49. Jamie Avatar
    Jamie

    Hi Jodi,

    Thank you ever so much for posting this. I can’t seem to write a PM to you on Disqus so having to do it through this.

    I am from the UK too, I’m having alot of trouble navigating how to get this whole process started in regards to seeing the right people and getting someone to listen to my bizarre range of symptoms (which very closely relate to MCAS), without thinking I need to have some sort of psychological examination.

    Would it be ok if you could contact me via email so I could ask a few questions and get some advice from you? My email is [email protected].

    All the best,
    Jamie

  50. Jamie Avatar
    Jamie

    Hi Nikki,

    I’m sorry to hear about your issues, they sound very similar to mine in regards to reacting to EVERYTHING, I’d love to be able to correspond via email with you about all this if your good with that.

    My email is [email protected]

    All the best,
    Jamie

  51. Jamie Avatar
    Jamie

    Hi Nikki,

    I’m sorry to hear about your issues, they sound very similar to mine in regards to reacting to EVERYTHING, I’d love to be able to correspond via email with you about all this if your good with that.

    My email is [email protected]

    All the best,
    Jamie

  52. Sandy Halliday Avatar

    I had my DAO enzyme activity measured in my blood by Dr Dirk Budka when he was practising in London. He was developing a nutritional supplement to stimulate the enzyme but disappeared off the scene before it came on the market. I was told that he became ill.

  53. Sandy Halliday Avatar

    I had my DAO enzyme activity measured in my blood by Dr Dirk Budka when he was practising in London. He was developing a nutritional supplement to stimulate the enzyme but disappeared off the scene before it came on the market. I was told that he became ill.

  54. Meg Wolff Avatar
    Meg Wolff

    Thank you.

  55. Meg Wolff Avatar
    Meg Wolff

    Thank you.

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